Monday, April 30, 2007

Definitely sexist and chauvinistic pigs

If a man had premarital sex, it's almost likely that he can get away with it , but not a woman???? f*cking idiot this whole thing. Double standard definitely. And those women who are that bloody ineducated or too excited or i dunno, unaware of their body system maybe that they easily get pregnant when they did it? A lot of women know how to protect themselves from such unbecoming atrocity. However, thats not exactly my point here. I am more concerned on those women who have done it as a matter of mutual consent and then freaked out when it comes to marrying someone who did not know of her own past? Those who were raped, molested and so on are excused and I rest my case on them knowing that it happened beyond their power and willingness.

Please read the article below.


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By Alexandra Steigrad
Sun Apr 29, 9:49 PM ET


Muslim women in France regain virginity in clinics

PARIS (Reuters) -- Sitting in a cafe near the Champs Elysees, the 26-year-old French-born woman of Algerian descent looks like any other Parisian. But two months ago, she did something none of her friends have done.

She had her hymen re-sewn, technically making her a virgin again.

"I'm glad I had it done," said the woman, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity. "I wanted to reconstruct part of my life, to reconstruct myself so that I could feel better about myself."

This 30-minute outpatient procedure, called "hymenoplasty" and costing between 1,500 and 3,000 euros ($2,000-$4,000), is increasingly popular among young women of North African descent in France.


No exact figures exist to say how many such operations are done, but the woman's surgeon says he gets three to five queries and performs one to three hymenoplasties each week. Demand has been rising for the past three or four years.

Doctor Marc Abecassis, whose office is near the chic Champs Elysees, sees the rise in religion among France's five million Muslims fuelling this trend. His patients are between 18 and 45 years old, Muslim, born both in France and in North Africa.

"Many of my patients are caught between two worlds," said Abecassis. They have had sex already but are expected to be virgins at marriage according to a custom that he called "cultural and traditional, with enormous family pressure."

For this woman, the decision to have the surgery came after she broke up with a boyfriend who had pressured her into having sex. Unable to cope with breaking family tradition, she felt a hymenoplasty would help put her life back together again.

Another of Abecassis' patients, a 22-year-old Algerian immigrant who asked to be called Karima, said most young women had the operation to respect their culture or family tradition, not for religious reasons.

In fact, neither woman is a practicing Muslim. They dress, speak and act like other young Parisians, but are also part of a growing silent group of women who juggle traditional Muslim and modern French values.

All the women who spoke to Reuters did so condition that their identities not be revealed.

DON'T DISAPPOINT THE FIANCE

Karima also lost her virginity to an ex-boyfriend. She plans to marry soon and her fiance expects her to be a virgin. So last month, she commuted in from an eastern suburb of Paris, where she lives with her parents, and had the surgery.

The next day she was back at work. "I don't want to disappoint my fiance," she said, adjusting her glasses and brushing her highlighted brown hair from her face. "I wouldn't have had the surgery if I hadn't met him."

A leading Muslim spokesman said Islam says bride and groom should be virgins before marriage, but did not take a clear stand for or against hymenoplasties.

"If someone committed a sin, the essential thing is to repent," said Lhaj Thami Breze, head of the Union of French Islamic Organizations.

For many doctors, resewing the hymen goes against their ideals of sexual freedom and personal liberty.

"The surgery is an attack on women's dignity," said Professor Jacques Lansac, president of The National College of Gynaecologists and Obstetricians of France. "We will not take part in a market that places value on the quality of a woman -- if she's good or not. It is an attack on women's liberty."

He also argued that any doctor who performed these operations at state hospitals violated France's legal separation of church and state.

The church-state issue flared up in 2004 when France passed a law banning religious garb, notably headscarves, from state primary and secondary schools.

Since then, Abecassis said, some Muslims in France have been putting much more emphasis on certain customs as a way of expressing their identity. "Today it's the two 'V's' -- veil and virginity," he said. "It's a social phenomenon."

Surprisingly, French social security reimburses some of the cost of the operation in cases of rape or trauma. "Ninety-nine percent of the time, the claim is a fraud," he added.

Still, Abecassis defended the operations and said he helped patients who could not pay his 2,500 euro fee. "This surgery gives them another chance," he said. "It's a rehabilitation. For many, it's the only solution."

ANOTHER PATIENT AWAITS

Sitting in the same cafe, a 19-year-old Moroccan studying in Paris who asked to be called Amel spoke just before her first consultation with Abecassis.

"I dated a boy when I was 15 and I didn't even realize what had happened," she said, referring to her first and only sexual experience. "I didn't understand what I did."

Her parents introduced her to a young man earlier this year, and they plan to wed when she returns to Morocco in June. But he would not accept a non-virgin, so she needs the operation soon.

Amel is scraping together the monthly allowance sent by her parents and emptying her savings account to pay for it. Two friends back home will lend her the remaining 1,000 euros.

"If my mother ever found out about this, she would have a mental breakdown," Amel said. "I don't want to have this surgery, but I don't have any choice."



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That guy definitely had sex before ....thats how they would find out and decide whether a girl is still a virgin or not by judging whether her hymen is well intact or not once the man performs the "dukhul" (arabic for intercourse). However, what the hell is this tradition if it just remained as tradition???? In islam, both men and women are punished equally for committing fornication, i.e. zina. If they are unmarried couple and are caught practising zina, the shariah court will decide that they get 100 canes each. And if they are adulterers, they get stoned to death. However, Islam also preaches forgiveness through unconditional repenting.

By the way, not all non-virgin women are that "loose" during penetration. The vaginal muscles will get intact after a long rest and through practising the right exercise that increases the tightness of it. Nevertheless, there are some women who are unfortunate enough to lose the muscle flexibility once the "damage" has been done.

Having said all that, I am not condoning the practise of the premarital sex. I just think all that bigotry, chauvinism and sexism that occur as a matter of preserving the whole virgin idea is totally tactless. They arent doing it for the sake of the religion. It's more of trying to be kind not to hurt the future groom's ego and inflate it even more once he thinks that his bride is untouched throughout her life and he's the first man ever to "discover" her. What a load of bollocks. Seriously!

6 comments:

Hi&Lo said...

Manal,

The Sharia court is very lopsided. It's not for the rich and powerful.

Sometime last year, the Mindef Sec-Gen who was also formerly mayor of Ipoh was caught khalwat in Sabah with a married woman.

When the case was mentioned in the Shariah court, the judge instructed the reporters not to publish the story.

The accused also did not appear in court. It was the judge who said the accused was not well to be present.

The case was postponed and nothing is heard until today.

Is it not supposed to be the Shariah is fairer than the civil court? Why the 2 sets of law?

ManaL said...

Hi there hi&lo,

A pleasure to see u dropping by my blog.

Not just the shariah law but the civil court too. The higher the position and the more powerful allies one has, the better chance of finding their way out and getting away with the supposedly punishment.

The 2 sets of laws have been practised in malaysia in accordance with upholding Islam as the official religion as stated in the 5 rukun negara. Notwithstanding,the shariah court power has been limited and assimilated with the civil court practise. It's more on the muslim social conduct, muslim matrimony issues like divorce and so on, and in a certain circumstances where islamic law is referred.

Fairer or not is subjective. The shariah court must adhere to the law that are stated in the holy quran by God himself. The shariah qadhi/hakim will be accounted with full responsibility (especially during the judgment day) for whatever way he exercise the law.

zewt said...

it's total stupidity i must say. getting the hymen sewn does not make one a virgin. dont u think so?

i once heard a story, where the girl ask her bf to screw her ass, cos she wants to 'remain a virgin'.... gee... where does that come from?

ManaL said...

Zewt ,

Apparently, this ass-screwing seemed to be the "safe" choice to quench the lust without losing the hymen as practised in some part of the middle east, india, pakistan, and many part of russia and ex-russia blocks. Those men wont settle for those orals both on them as well as on the girls and so, some "full" penetration is deemed necessary to get that almost the same feeling or half the pleasure. UNless the guy or the girl shares the same fetish and sexual orientation, then it's personal preference i reckon.


At least they know they wont get pregnant by doing that. At the end of the day, those girls are human too with needs and so on. Poor girls (muslims and orthodox christians) had to suffer the consequences of living in a VERY conservative society where MEN are not liable for social misconduct.

zewt said...

really??? wow... never thought it is actually in practice to have your ass screwed in order to preserve your virginity. i think it's all in the body as a whole. if any hole has been violated, i think it's no longer a virgin... to me that is.

ManaL said...

Zewt ,

Technically, they are no longer anal-virgin if u dig what i mean....However, i do agree with u that those who permits such an act may not be that virgin (as in no longer pure) after all, both male and female. I dunno if some extra virgin oil may be involved in the process ;-D

Come to think of it, when a guy does a guy, both are said to have lost their virginity on the account of homosexuality. But if a girl gets her ass screwed, she can still retain her virginity on the account of luar tabii (against the nature) as in the "off-side" rule (?). Subsequently, the goal is fouled and no score on the board. Due to that, the woman can still appear clean despite losing her dignity (maruah dan harga diri).

Actually, anal sex is prohibited in islam even for a married couple.